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Need Monitor for Dart Star 2000
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MegaBob
2009-08-04 04:22:45 UTC
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I'm guessing any external 9 pin color monitor would work?

Or one with an RCA connector (like some old computer monitors).

Anybody got a spare?

Thanks!

Bob
Brian Pipa
2009-08-04 04:53:01 UTC
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Post by MegaBob
I'm guessing any external 9 pin color monitor would work?
Or one with an RCA connector (like some old computer monitors).
Anybody got a spare?
Thanks!
Bob
how big is the monitor?
http://thebrokenjoystick.com
MegaBob
2009-08-04 05:19:43 UTC
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Post by MegaBob
Or one with an RCA connector (like some old computer monitors).
Anybody got a spare?
Thanks!
Bob
how big is the monitor?http://thebrokenjoystick.com
I don't know how big.
I got the machine for free as the monitor was missing (fell off).
It was an external monitor in it's own housing...that's all I know.
But I'm guessing 12" to 15"?

Thanks
Ken Layton
2009-08-04 04:55:57 UTC
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The DartStar main board can output standard composite NTSC color video
from the RCA video out jack. You can feed this to any tv set with a
video input jack. Or you can feed that signal to any B&W or color CGA
monitor.

The other video connector on the dart game's main board is a .100
Molex "KK" wafer connector which if you make an appropriate "dongle"
adapter can allow you to plug into a 9 pin CGA computer monitor like
the old Radio Shack CM-11 color monitor (works very well with this
machine) or you can even plug it into a Wells-Gardner video arcade
monitor. Be advised that the DartStar board outputs horizontal and
vertical POSITIVE sync.
MegaBob
2009-08-04 05:27:43 UTC
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Post by Ken Layton
The DartStar main board can output standard composite NTSC color video
from the RCA video out jack. You can feed this to any tv set with a
video input jack. Or you can feed that signal to any B&W or color CGA
monitor.
The other video connector on the dart game's main board is a .100
Molex "KK" wafer connector which if you make an appropriate "dongle"
adapter can allow you to plug into a 9 pin CGA computer monitor like
the old Radio Shack CM-11 color monitor (works very well with this
machine) or you can even plug it into a Wells-Gardner video arcade
monitor. Be advised that the DartStar board outputs horizontal and
vertical POSITIVE sync.
OK...the second part is a little beyond my skills to decipher.

However, I have tried 3 TVs and the only one that seems to work a my
GX TV which was a special TV for gaming which I suspect has a monitor
tube in it,
not the usual TV tube.
The TV's with a regular TV tube do not sync up, and don't have any
horizontal or vertical sync knobs (unless they are inside somewhere?).

My goal is to not use the GX TV for the Dart Star, as I use it with my
classic gaming consoles.

Anyways, thanks for the info...but where can I find these monitors you
mentioned?

I searched Craigs List and Ebay and Yahoo and the only people selling
old CGA monitors are asking outragous prices.

Anybody got a free one I can have?

Or cheap?
MegaBob
2009-08-04 07:06:10 UTC
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Would one of those db9 to db15 video adapter blocks on ebay work for
connecting an SVGA monitor?

Thanks!

Bob
Post by MegaBob
Post by Ken Layton
The DartStar main board can output standard composite NTSC color video
from the RCA video out jack. You can feed this to any tv set with a
video input jack. Or you can feed that signal to any B&W or color CGA
monitor.
The other video connector on the dart game's main board is a .100
Molex "KK" wafer connector which if you make an appropriate "dongle"
adapter can allow you to plug into a 9 pin CGA computer monitor like
the old Radio Shack CM-11 color monitor (works very well with this
machine) or you can even plug it into a Wells-Gardner video arcade
monitor. Be advised that the DartStar board outputs horizontal and
vertical POSITIVE sync.
OK...the second part is a little beyond my skills to decipher.
However, I have tried 3 TVs and the only one that seems to work a my
GX TV which was a special TV for gaming which I suspect has a monitor
tube in it,
not the usual TV tube.
The TV's with a regular TV tube do not sync up, and don't have any
horizontal or vertical sync knobs (unless they are inside somewhere?).
My goal is to not use the GX TV for the Dart Star, as I use it with my
classic gaming consoles.
Anyways, thanks for the info...but where can I find these monitors you
mentioned?
I searched Craigs List and Ebay and Yahoo and the only people selling
old CGA monitors are asking outragous prices.
Anybody got a free one I can have?
Or cheap?
Brian Pipa
2009-08-04 13:00:14 UTC
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Maybe try looking for a Commodore 1702 monitor - it has RCA inputs on
the front and a great picture - sounds like it might be the right
size. I have purchased them from thrift stores for ~$5. I have two.

Brian
http://thebrokenjoystick.com
Post by MegaBob
Post by Ken Layton
The DartStar main board can output standard composite NTSC color video
from the RCA video out jack. You can feed this to any tv set with a
video input jack. Or you can feed that signal to any B&W or color CGA
monitor.
The other video connector on the dart game's main board is a .100
Molex "KK" wafer connector which if you make an appropriate "dongle"
adapter can allow you to plug into a 9 pin CGA computer monitor like
the old Radio Shack CM-11 color monitor (works very well with this
machine) or you can even plug it into a Wells-Gardner video arcade
monitor. Be advised that the DartStar board outputs horizontal and
vertical POSITIVE sync.
OK...the second part is a little beyond my skills to decipher.
However, I have tried 3 TVs and the only one that seems to work a my
GX TV which was a special TV for gaming which I suspect has a monitor
tube in it,
not the usual TV tube.
The TV's with a regular TV tube do not sync up, and don't have any
horizontal or vertical sync knobs (unless they are inside somewhere?).
My goal is to not use the GX TV for the Dart Star, as I use it with my
classic gaming consoles.
Anyways, thanks for the info...but where can I find these monitors you
mentioned?
I searched Craigs List and Ebay and Yahoo and the only people selling
old CGA monitors are asking outragous prices.
Anybody got a free one I can have?
Or cheap?
MegaBob
2009-08-04 22:01:16 UTC
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I used to have a whole bunch of old monitors like you guys are
mentioning but recycled them before I got into arcade collecting....
Post by Brian Pipa
Maybe try looking for a Commodore 1702 monitor - it has RCA inputs on
the front and a great picture - sounds like it might be the right
size. I have purchased them from thrift stores for ~$5. I have two.
Brianhttp://thebrokenjoystick.com
Post by MegaBob
Post by Ken Layton
The DartStar main board can output standard composite NTSC color video
from the RCA video out jack. You can feed this to any tv set with a
video input jack. Or you can feed that signal to any B&W or color CGA
monitor.
The other video connector on the dart game's main board is a .100
Molex "KK" wafer connector which if you make an appropriate "dongle"
adapter can allow you to plug into a 9 pin CGA computer monitor like
the old Radio Shack CM-11 color monitor (works very well with this
machine) or you can even plug it into a Wells-Gardner video arcade
monitor. Be advised that the DartStar board outputs horizontal and
vertical POSITIVE sync.
OK...the second part is a little beyond my skills to decipher.
However, I have tried 3 TVs and the only one that seems to work a my
GX TV which was a special TV for gaming which I suspect has a monitor
tube in it,
not the usual TV tube.
The TV's with a regular TV tube do not sync up, and don't have any
horizontal or vertical sync knobs (unless they are inside somewhere?).
My goal is to not use the GX TV for the Dart Star, as I use it with my
classic gaming consoles.
Anyways, thanks for the info...but where can I find these monitors you
mentioned?
I searched Craigs List and Ebay and Yahoo and the only people selling
old CGA monitors are asking outragous prices.
Anybody got a free one I can have?
Or cheap?
Darren Hill
2023-02-27 21:03:17 UTC
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Post by MegaBob
I used to have a whole bunch of old monitors like you guys are
mentioning but recycled them before I got into arcade collecting....
Post by Brian Pipa
Maybe try looking for a Commodore 1702 monitor - it has RCA inputs on
the front and a great picture - sounds like it might be the right
size. I have purchased them from thrift stores for ~$5. I have two.
Brianhttp://thebrokenjoystick.com
Post by MegaBob
Post by Ken Layton
The DartStar main board can output standard composite NTSC color video
from the RCA video out jack. You can feed this to any tv set with a
video input jack. Or you can feed that signal to any B&W or color CGA
monitor.
The other video connector on the dart game's main board is a .100
Molex "KK" wafer connector which if you make an appropriate "dongle"
adapter can allow you to plug into a 9 pin CGA computer monitor like
the old Radio Shack CM-11 color monitor (works very well with this
machine) or you can even plug it into a Wells-Gardner video arcade
monitor. Be advised that the DartStar board outputs horizontal and
vertical POSITIVE sync.
OK...the second part is a little beyond my skills to decipher.
However, I have tried 3 TVs and the only one that seems to work a my
GX TV which was a special TV for gaming which I suspect has a monitor
tube in it,
not the usual TV tube.
The TV's with a regular TV tube do not sync up, and don't have any
horizontal or vertical sync knobs (unless they are inside somewhere?).
My goal is to not use the GX TV for the Dart Star, as I use it with my
classic gaming consoles.
Anyways, thanks for the info...but where can I find these monitors you
mentioned?
I searched Craigs List and Ebay and Yahoo and the only people selling
old CGA monitors are asking outragous prices.
Anybody got a free one I can have?
Or cheap?
I have an old dart star machine and all I did was use a small standard flat screen tv and hung it off the side and it works great!
Mike Garcia
2023-03-03 01:52:00 UTC
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Post by Darren Hill
Post by MegaBob
I used to have a whole bunch of old monitors like you guys are
mentioning but recycled them before I got into arcade collecting....
Post by Brian Pipa
Maybe try looking for a Commodore 1702 monitor - it has RCA inputs on
the front and a great picture - sounds like it might be the right
size. I have purchased them from thrift stores for ~$5. I have two.
Brianhttp://thebrokenjoystick.com
Post by MegaBob
Post by Ken Layton
The DartStar main board can output standard composite NTSC color video
from the RCA video out jack. You can feed this to any tv set with a
video input jack. Or you can feed that signal to any B&W or color CGA
monitor.
The other video connector on the dart game's main board is a .100
Molex "KK" wafer connector which if you make an appropriate "dongle"
adapter can allow you to plug into a 9 pin CGA computer monitor like
the old Radio Shack CM-11 color monitor (works very well with this
machine) or you can even plug it into a Wells-Gardner video arcade
monitor. Be advised that the DartStar board outputs horizontal and
vertical POSITIVE sync.
OK...the second part is a little beyond my skills to decipher.
However, I have tried 3 TVs and the only one that seems to work a my
GX TV which was a special TV for gaming which I suspect has a monitor
tube in it,
not the usual TV tube.
The TV's with a regular TV tube do not sync up, and don't have any
horizontal or vertical sync knobs (unless they are inside somewhere?).
My goal is to not use the GX TV for the Dart Star, as I use it with my
classic gaming consoles.
Anyways, thanks for the info...but where can I find these monitors you
mentioned?
I searched Craigs List and Ebay and Yahoo and the only people selling
old CGA monitors are asking outragous prices.
Anybody got a free one I can have?
Or cheap?
I have an old dart star machine and all I did was use a small standard flat screen tv and hung it off the side and it works great!
you're replied to a message from 2009, lol
don't worry, i've done the same, a few times :)

Ken Layton
2009-08-04 16:11:22 UTC
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The original monitor that Medalist provided was a 12" amber Magnavox
or Goldstar monitor. The monitor was mounted to angled black brackets
then the monitor/bracket combo was screwed to the top of the machine
which made it very tall. In locations where there was not enough
ceiling height (clearance) some people mount a shelf and shelf
brackets on the side of the machine and set the monitor on that.

Remember, this game is capable of outputing color or black and white
graphics depending on the dip switch setting and the dip shunt jumpers
on the game board.
MegaBob
2009-08-04 21:55:54 UTC
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Post by Ken Layton
The original monitor that Medalist provided was a 12" amber Magnavox
or Goldstar monitor. The monitor was mounted to angled black brackets
then the monitor/bracket combo was screwed to the top of the machine
which made it very tall. In locations where there was not enough
ceiling height (clearance) some people mount a shelf and shelf
brackets on the side of the machine and set the monitor on that.
Remember, this game is capable of outputing color or black and white
graphics depending on the dip switch setting and the dip shunt jumpers
on the game board.
Thanks everybody
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